Education, Schools & Summer Vacations
Do you have some views on the current practice of taking holidays outside school time? The prices of holidays shoot up during half term i.e. summer, christmas and easter because holiday agencies know people take time out to spend with their families but more and more people are taking children out of school to go on holidays during term time because it is much cheaper to travel this time of year.
Is it okay to take a child out of schol away from their education for two or three weeks to get cheaper flights or is the cost of them missing a few maths, science or art lessons as a result more important?
http://www.moneywise.co.uk/life-plans/family-finances/article/2008/...
Is it okay to take a child out of schol away from their education for two or three weeks to get cheaper flights or is the cost of them missing a few maths, science or art lessons as a result more important?
http://www.moneywise.co.uk/life-plans/family-finances/article/2008/...
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Permalink Reply by Nathan Thompson on -
A very big "IF" parental responsiblity plays a big part here.
creesschaef said:If the student has completed all schoolwork that was planned for the duration of the holiday, there shouldn't be a problem. When I was in public school, this was the procedure. Students and parents knew the drill and were expected to follow it. If they didn't, the child wasn't passed to the next grade level. Sure, attendance is important, but the completion of assigned work and comprehension of the material are more important, even if accomplished outside of the schoolroom.
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Permalink Reply by lil_missy on -
What happens if they keep failing?
creesschaef said:If the student has completed all schoolwork that was planned for the duration of the holiday, there shouldn't be a problem. When I was in public school, this was the procedure. Students and parents knew the drill and were expected to follow it. If they didn't, the child wasn't passed to the next grade level. Sure, attendance is important, but the completion of assigned work and comprehension of the material are more important, even if accomplished outside of the schoolroom.
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Permalink Reply by creesschaef on -
lil_missy said:What happens if they keep failing?
If the student failed more than one year consecutively, then they were placed in an alternative school. This was a completely separate location that had a much higher teacher:student ratio. The students also knew that any further unacceptable behavior would find them out of school without a high school diploma. I knew some people who went this route and still didn't tow the line. They ended up having to work on a GED (General Equivalency Diploma) if they wanted to get anything above minimum wage.
As for parental responsibility, when the parents didn't follow the procedures and it led to further problems, the local welfare office would get in contact with them. If the students weren't keeping up in school and it was felt that the parents weren't acting responsibly, their parental rights could be taken away.
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Permalink Reply by lil_missy on
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It different here. When students fail to meet the grade they still stay in the same year. Pupils are puts in classes geared to their ability, so a failing student would be put in a lower stream.
creesschaef said:lil_missy said:What happens if they keep failing?
If the student failed more than one year consecutively, then they were placed in an alternative school. This was a completely separate location that had a much higher teacher:student ratio. The students also knew that any further unacceptable behavior would find them out of school without a high school diploma. I knew some people who went this route and still didn't tow the line. They ended up having to work on a GED (General Equivalency Diploma) if they wanted to get anything above minimum wage.
As for parental responsibility, when the parents didn't follow the procedures and it led to further problems, the local welfare office would get in contact with them. If the students weren't keeping up in school and it was felt that the parents weren't acting responsibly, their parental rights could be taken away.
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Permalink Reply by Sue-Ellen Chohan-Thompson on -
I see what you mean, and agree with you, I mean I skipped school all the time, my attendance was so poor! And it became a pattern I contiuned throughot college and university whilst I did my HND, Degree and Masters,I never once stopped skipping class. However, it never hindered me, my 100% or not in my case did not stop me achieving anything, I did my work regardless of what days I missed. So I understand what you mean, infact I have said this before but one of my lectururers during my Masters would talk to my fellow students about me and say "Sue Ellen doesn't turn up all the time but when she does she's ahead of the class!".
It definatly a different outlook.
creesschaef said:If the student has completed all schoolwork that was planned for the duration of the holiday, there shouldn't be a problem. When I was in public school, this was the procedure. Students and parents knew the drill and were expected to follow it. If they didn't, the child wasn't passed to the next grade level. Sure, attendance is important, but the completion of assigned work and comprehension of the material are more important, even if accomplished outside of the schoolroom.
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Permalink Reply by Sue-Ellen Chohan-Thompson on
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I studied at a university and I was shocked, they allowed students to progress into the following year even if the hadn't passed all they're modules, I couldn't believe it, and that's a university!!!!
creesschaef said:lil_missy said:What happens if they keep failing?
If the student failed more than one year consecutively, then they were placed in an alternative school. This was a completely separate location that had a much higher teacher:student ratio. The students also knew that any further unacceptable behavior would find them out of school without a high school diploma. I knew some people who went this route and still didn't tow the line. They ended up having to work on a GED (General Equivalency Diploma) if they wanted to get anything above minimum wage.
As for parental responsibility, when the parents didn't follow the procedures and it led to further problems, the local welfare office would get in contact with them. If the students weren't keeping up in school and it was felt that the parents weren't acting responsibly, their parental rights could be taken away.
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Permalink Reply by Sue-Ellen Chohan-Thompson on
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I had impeccable school attendance at nursery, lower school and middle school just in case you thought it was a pattern instilled in me while I was young. To my family school was like daycare, in fact after school a teacher would look after me after school until my Mum came to pick me up from her home! She wouldn't even drop me off to school 30 minutes before the other school kids began coming in, so it not down to what I picked up when I was young.
Oh and one year I had a total of six week away from school to go to India, but it didn't hold me back!
Sue-Ellen said:I see what you mean, and agree with you, I mean I skipped school all the time, my attendance was so poor! And it became a pattern I contiuned throughot college and university whilst I did my HND, Degree and Masters,I never once stopped skipping class. However, it never hindered me, my 100% or not in my case did not stop me achieving anything, I did my work regardless of what days I missed. So I understand what you mean, infact I have said this before but one of my lectururers during my Masters would talk to my fellow students about me and say "Sue Ellen doesn't turn up all the time but when she does she's ahead of the class!". It definatly a different outlook.
creesschaef said:If the student has completed all schoolwork that was planned for the duration of the holiday, there shouldn't be a problem. When I was in public school, this was the procedure. Students and parents knew the drill and were expected to follow it. If they didn't, the child wasn't passed to the next grade level. Sure, attendance is important, but the completion of assigned work and comprehension of the material are more important, even if accomplished outside of the schoolroom.
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Permalink Reply by Doey247 on -
Here we go Nath my opinion,
Another way for people to look at this and especially those with children, How would you feel if the teachers decided to take time off to go on holiday? I am sure there would be some dispute if this was to take place and being a teacher mysel, ,if a student misses two weeks of classes i would put the responsibility on the parents to make sure that they covered the work upon their return as there is not enough time for teachers to backtrack and why should a whole class have to wait for one student because they chose to go on holiday? Education is pricesless and too many people in this country take it for granted. \it is a priveledge not a god given right!!!!!!
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